{"id":2609,"date":"2017-10-17T07:47:29","date_gmt":"2017-10-17T11:47:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/meisaj.com\/?p=2609"},"modified":"2017-10-17T07:47:29","modified_gmt":"2017-10-17T11:47:29","slug":"but-what-if-were-wrong","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/?p=2609","title":{"rendered":"But What If We&#8217;re Wrong"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m still working through what was supposed to be my September read &#8211; <em>1177 B.C. &#8211; The Year Civilization Collapsed.<\/em>\u00a0 As a non-fiction history book it can be a little sluggish at times, so I picked up\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/27068734-but-what-if-we-re-wrong-thinking-about-the-present-as-if-it-were-the-pa\"><em>But What If We&#8217;re Wrong<\/em><\/a>, by Chuck Klosterman as a book to read on the side in September.<\/p>\n<p>I<a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-2610 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?resize=169%2C300&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"169\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?resize=169%2C300&amp;ssl=1 169w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?resize=768%2C1364&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?resize=576%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 576w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/meisaj.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/BWIWW.jpg?w=2080&amp;ssl=1 2080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 169px) 100vw, 169px\" \/><\/a>t was pretty good.\u00a0 And yes the cover is printed the way it shows in my picture, upside down. Basically it is trying to look at today (this era) from hundreds of years in the future.\u00a0 What will people in the future say was the definite musical artist of our times?\u00a0 Who will they say is the writer that defined what it meant to live right now?\u00a0 What criteria will they be looking back at to even use to judge those things?\u00a0 Is it the person who sold the most albums, books, etc.?\u00a0 And how can we even know what they would be looking for, living in this era?<\/p>\n<p>As with my previous book, I took a lot of quotes down.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s start with my favorite quote from the book:<\/p>\n<p>pg 94 &#8211;\u00a0To matter forever, you need to matter to those who don&#8217;t care. And if that strikes you as sad, be sad.<\/p>\n<p>I think that quote is just eerie, but telling.\u00a0 In order to matter in the future, you have to matter and be known to just about everyone.\u00a0 Or at least have a large enough impact that those not even close to you, those who don&#8217;t like you or your ideas, still will remember you.<\/p>\n<p>There was one whole chapter with a mishmash of conversations between the author and Brian Greene, and the author and Neil deGrasseTyson. He went back and forth between these two science superstars discussing their different takes on unknowns, basically asking them to comment on each other&#8217;s thoughts.\u00a0 It was so interesting I couldn&#8217;t pick out quotes from it, the whole chapter really needs to be read.\u00a0 But essentially Brian Greene argues that 500 years in the future, the way we describe gravity may change more than any other aspect of science.\u00a0 He sees gravity being something that is indirectly caused by another process.\u00a0 Sort like how temperature is an aspect of the motion of atoms.\u00a0 Neil deGrasse Tyson disagrees with that, and thinks we already have an understanding of gravity, just with some pieces still to be discovered.\u00a0 By the end of the chapter the author comes to appreciate the difference between a theoretical physicist like Brian Greene (someone who uses math to explore complex phenomena) and Neil deGrasse Tyson who is an astrophysicist (someone who explores and tries to explain the known universe). I&#8217;m not even sure that explanation is accurate.\u00a0 Accept my apologies in advance if its not.<\/p>\n<p>Anyways&#8230; here are the rest of the quotes I pulled from the book:<\/p>\n<p>Pg 0 &#8211;\u00a0This is not a collection of essays.<br \/>\nIt might look like a collection of essays, and&#8211;at times&#8211;it might feel like a collection of essays. But that is not the intention.<br \/>\nObviously, you can read this book however you choose. I can&#8217;t demand people read this book in sequential order, nor can I stop anyone from skipping around and reading random chapters in whatever insane pattern they desire. But it will make more sense if to don&#8217;t.<br \/>\nThis is not a collection of essays.<\/p>\n<p>pg 2 &#8211;\u00a0When you ask smart people if they believe there are major ideas currently accepted by the culture at large that will eventually be proven false, they will say, &#8220;Well, of course. There must be. That phenomenon had been weekend by every generation who&#8217;s ever lived, since the dawn of human history.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>pg 3 &#8211;\u00a0It&#8217;s impossible to examine questions we refuse to ask.<\/p>\n<p>pg 10 &#8211;\u00a0We live in an age when virtually no content is lost and virtually all content is share&#8230;. In other words, we&#8217;re starting to behave as if we&#8217;ve reached the end of human knowledge. And while that notion is undoubtable false, the sensation of certitude if generates is paralyzing.<\/p>\n<p>pg 24 &#8211;\u00a0Quality will matter at the end of an argument, but not at the beginning. At the beginning, the main thing that matters is what the future world will be like. From there, you work in reverse.<\/p>\n<p>pg 39 &#8211;\u00a0So this, it seems, is the key for authors who want to live forever: You need to write about important things without actually writing about them.<\/p>\n<p>pg 58 &#8211;\u00a0But this possibility strikes me as plausible, primarily for a reason that must never be ignored: History is a creative process (or as Napoleon Bonaparte once said, &#8220;a set of lies agreed upon.&#8221;). The world as it happens, but we district what we remember and what we forget. And people will eventually do that to us, too.<\/p>\n<p>pg 89 &#8211; &#8220;There is pathetic, justice-driven part of my brain that believes-or needs to believe-that cream rises to the top, and the best work endures by virtue of its goodness.&#8221;<br \/>\nAmanda Petrusich<\/p>\n<p>pg 86 &#8211;\u00a0If you tried to give rock and roll another name,&#8221; John Lennon famously said, &#8220;you might call it Chuck Berry.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>pg 91 &#8211;\u00a0History is defined by people who don&#8217;t really understand what they are defining.<\/p>\n<p>pg 94 &#8211;\u00a0To matter forever, you need to matter to those who don&#8217;t care. And if that strikes you as sad, be sad.<\/p>\n<p>pg 117 &#8211;\u00a0Here&#8217;s the thing with paradigm shifts: They tend to be less dramatic than cultural memory suggests.<\/p>\n<p>pg 164 &#8211;\u00a0So apply this philosophy to ourselves, as to our own version of televised culture: If we consider all the possible criteria, what were the most accidentally realist TV shows of all time? Which American TV programs &#8211; if watched by a curious person in a distant future &#8211; would latently represent how day-to-day American society actually was?<\/p>\n<p>pg 206 &#8211;\u00a0If Buchanan truly was the worst president, his failure has had about as much impact on contemporary society as the cancellation of Two and a Half Men. (FYI &#8211; this was written before the 2016 election)<\/p>\n<p>pg 207 &#8211;\u00a0If and when the United States does ultimately collapse, will that breakdown be a consequence of the Constitution itself?<\/p>\n<p>pg 222 &#8211;\u00a0I&#8217;m just working through my central hedgehog thought, which is this: The ultimate failure if the United States will probably not derive from the problems we see or the conflicts we wage. It will more likely derive from our uncompromising belief in the things we consider unimpeachable and idealized and beautiful. Because every strength is a weakness, if given enough time.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m still working through what was supposed to be my September read &#8211; 1177 B.C. &#8211; The Year Civilization Collapsed.\u00a0 As a non-fiction history book it can be a little sluggish at times, so I picked up\u00a0But What If We&#8217;re Wrong, by Chuck Klosterman as a book to read on the side in September. It&hellip;<a href=\"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/?p=2609\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">But What If We&#8217;re Wrong<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[1],"tags":[728,41,726,727,4,718],"class_list":["post-2609","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-daily_life","tag-1177-bc","tag-books","tag-but-what-if-were-wrong","tag-chuck-klosterman","tag-meisaj","tag-quotes"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1DKK0-G5","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2609","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2609"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2609\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2611,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2609\/revisions\/2611"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2609"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2609"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/meisaj.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2609"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}